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When Vendors Attack (Each Other)

PhilSimon
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In the new edition of Why New Systems Fail , I expanded many sections, including the one about support for enterprise systems. To make a long story short, historically clients have had relatively few options:

  • Pay the software vendor 18-22 percent of the original license fee per year.
  • Not pay for support (aka, “going naked”).
  • Internally support its applications with a cadre of internal resources.  (This is rare but I have seen it.)

The Rise of Independent Support

In recent years, however, a new support option has become particularly popular with many clients of enterprise software vendors: independent support. Companies such as Rimini Street offer organizations running Oracle, PeopleSoft, JD Edwards, Siebel, SAP, and other applications support for about half of what native vendors charge.

You may be asking, “Why would a company offer support on another company’s product?”

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As with the answer to most questions in life, the answer is “money.”

This begs the question, “How profitable is support to enterprise software vendors?” While estimates vary…

In the new edition of Why New Systems Fail , I expanded many sections, including the one about support for enterprise systems. To make a long story short, historically clients have had relatively few options:

  • Pay the software vendor 18-22 percent of the original license fee per year.
  • Not pay for support (aka, “going naked”).
  • Internally support its applications with a cadre of internal resources.  (This is rare but I have seen it.)

The Rise of Independent Support

In recent years, however, a new support option has become particularly popular with many clients of enterprise software vendors: independent support. Companies such as Rimini Street offer organizations running Oracle, PeopleSoft, JD Edwards, Siebel, SAP, and other applications support for about half of what native vendors charge.

You may be asking, “Why would a company offer support on another company’s product?”

As with the answer to most questions in life, the answer is “money.”

This begs the question, “How profitable is support to enterprise software vendors?” While estimates vary, industry notables such as Frank Scavo and Dennis Howlett have speculated that the margins on this type of support are as high as 90 percent.

So, let’s sum up the current state of independent support:

  • Rimini Street saw an opportunity and took it.
  • It’s obvious that, if unabated, independent support vendors will probably start popping up all over the place. Rimini Street is doing quite well on both price and customer service by most accounts. People are taking notice.
  • Vendors are not likely to sit idly by as competitors attack such a highly profitable line of business.

Lawsuits

Oracle in particular has not been happy with the success of Rimini Street. In late January of this year, it finally threw down the gauntlet. Oracle filed a lawsuit against Rimini Street attempting to prevent the latter from supporting the products of the former. After several months of attempted dialogue, Rimini Street fired back this week, countersuing Oracle.

Simon Says

I am no attorney, nor do I play one on TV. From my point of view, Rimini Street’s case has a great deal of merit. Think about it. Software vendors sell their products to clients. This is not a rental or SaaS-based environment in which organizations in effect rent their applications. Clients own vendors’ apps and can do just about whatever they want to them, including customizing them (against vendors’ recommendations) and remaining on older versions. It stands to reason, then, that those organizations can seek support from third parties whether the vendor likes it or not.

Consider the car analogy, one of my favorites. If I buy a BMW, for example, do I have to get it serviced at a BMW dealership or can I go across the street? It’s my car. Now, if I leased a car, then the terms might mandate that I go to the BMW dealership. Again, in this case, I don’t own the car. BMW does.

Irrespective of the outcome of the case, it will shed light on maintenance and support agreements, as both Scavo and Howlett have pointed out. Personally, I don’t see how Oracle can extinguish the independent support flame forever. Rimini Street is doing well because it provides to its clients a compelling product at a significant discount.

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What do you think? What do your EULAs allow you to do to your organization’s apps?

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Phil Simon is a recognized technology authority. He is the award-winning author of eight management books, most recentlyAnalytics: The Agile Way. He <consults organizations on matters related to communications, strategy, data, and technology. His contributions have been featured on The Harvard Business Review, CNN, The New York Times, Fox News, and many other sites. In the fall of 2016, he joined the faculty at Arizona State University’s W. P. Carey School of Business.

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